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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks David.

I have followed your suggestions with much interest. I particularly liked the comment in your own article where you say: "The school curriculum is supposed to equip young people for life. I would suggest that the lesson that you remember most clearly from your years at school is simply the importance of doing what is expected of you, the importance of fulfilling a proper function as a cog."

This compares with the following from 'Wot, No School?':
"School is an institution established for the promotion of
education. Though an institution’s objective may have
value, the institution itself has no intrinsic value. As we
have seen, the institution ‘school’ has not only become
more important than the original objective ‘education’, it
has become confused with it. The demand is that pupils
and teachers should be good at ‘school’, should be good
inmates, good servants of the institution. Originality,
thinking ‘outside the box’, thoughts and ideas which
may change the world, creativity, innovation, things
which cannot easily be measured, do not sit comfortably
in such an institution. Yet, as we look towards creating
an education fit for the twenty-first century, originality,
creativity, innovation and discovery may be precisely
what we need for the economic benefit of society and for
the enrichment of our personal lives as individual human
beings."

And also with Prof. Charles Handy in his book 'The Age of Unreason' (1990):
"The man stood in front of the class. ‘Now learn this' he
said, writing an equation on the board. We wrote it in
our books. Three months later we wrote it out again in
an examination paper. If the second time of writing was
the same as the first, we had learnt it. I exaggerate, but
only a little…Later on I came to realise that I had
learned nothing at school which I now remember except
only this – that all problems had already been solved, by
someone, and that the answer was around, in the back
of the book or the teachers’ head. Learning seemed to
mean transferring answers from them to me."

I also enjoyed your article on Falko Peschel. I am no expert in pedagogy, but his approach to learning perhaps has relevance to the suggestions made in 'Wot, No School?' for the School Leaving Certificate curriculum. I would welcome comments on both the suggested curriculum and the ideas on the organisation of classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks David.</p>
<p>I have followed your suggestions with much interest. I particularly liked the comment in your own article where you say: &#8220;The school curriculum is supposed to equip young people for life. I would suggest that the lesson that you remember most clearly from your years at school is simply the importance of doing what is expected of you, the importance of fulfilling a proper function as a cog.&#8221;</p>
<p>This compares with the following from &#8216;Wot, No School?&#8217;:<br />
&#8220;School is an institution established for the promotion of<br />
education. Though an institution’s objective may have<br />
value, the institution itself has no intrinsic value. As we<br />
have seen, the institution ‘school’ has not only become<br />
more important than the original objective ‘education’, it<br />
has become confused with it. The demand is that pupils<br />
and teachers should be good at ‘school’, should be good<br />
inmates, good servants of the institution. Originality,<br />
thinking ‘outside the box’, thoughts and ideas which<br />
may change the world, creativity, innovation, things<br />
which cannot easily be measured, do not sit comfortably<br />
in such an institution. Yet, as we look towards creating<br />
an education fit for the twenty-first century, originality,<br />
creativity, innovation and discovery may be precisely<br />
what we need for the economic benefit of society and for<br />
the enrichment of our personal lives as individual human<br />
beings.&#8221;</p>
<p>And also with Prof. Charles Handy in his book &#8216;The Age of Unreason&#8217; (1990):<br />
&#8220;The man stood in front of the class. ‘Now learn this&#8217; he<br />
said, writing an equation on the board. We wrote it in<br />
our books. Three months later we wrote it out again in<br />
an examination paper. If the second time of writing was<br />
the same as the first, we had learnt it. I exaggerate, but<br />
only a little…Later on I came to realise that I had<br />
learned nothing at school which I now remember except<br />
only this – that all problems had already been solved, by<br />
someone, and that the answer was around, in the back<br />
of the book or the teachers’ head. Learning seemed to<br />
mean transferring answers from them to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also enjoyed your article on Falko Peschel. I am no expert in pedagogy, but his approach to learning perhaps has relevance to the suggestions made in &#8216;Wot, No School?&#8217; for the School Leaving Certificate curriculum. I would welcome comments on both the suggested curriculum and the ideas on the organisation of classes.</p>
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